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Manson Family Values: Whatever Happened to the Children of the Manson Family? + UPDATES ON THE FAMILY

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Scroll down to access the Original post from September 5, 2009

I’m gluing Manson Family updates to the top of the post as they become available.

UPDATE:
From JAN 11 2017, 10:56 AM ET

Charles Manson would be 92 when he is next up for parole in 2027.Source:AP

Hell gets ready to welcome Charles Manson
From: http://www.news.com.au/
JANUARY 10, 201711:40AM

CHARLES Manson is closing in on death’s door, a source familiar said on Monday.

[ NOT TRUE scroll down to LISTEN TO MANSON PHONE CALL FROM PRISON ]

[PLEASE BE ADVISED NAZI IMAGERY INCLUDES HITLER DOLL]

“I don’t think he’ll be around too much longer, but he is able to talk in his current condition,” the California Corrections Department source told the New York Post, referring to the infamous cult leader’s health crisis.

Last week, Manson, 82, was taken out of Corcoran State Prison in California’s Central Valley and rushed to a hospital in Bakersfield about 100km away for emergency surgery to stop his intestines from bleeding, sources told The Post.

But doctors decided not to perform the procedure because they believed that Manson was “too weak” and could potentially die while under the knife, TMZ reported.

Manson was then shuttled back to the prison, where he’s currently being held, sources said Read more…

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UPDATE:
From http://www.nydailynews.com/
BY NANCY DILLON
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Tuesday, January 10, 2017, 9:43 PM

Alleged friend of Charles Manson claims killer cult leader called to say he isn’t near death

LISTEN TO MANSON PHONE CALL FROM PRISON

[PLEASED BE ADVISED NAZI IMAGERY INCLUDES HITLER DOLL]
“Charles Manson is nowhere near death’s door, a friend of the murder mastermind told the Daily News Tuesday.”

“He’s not about to die,” Illinois-based pal Ben Gurecki said in a phone interview. “He is strong. He is healthy. I’ve talked to him every night since he got out of the hospital.”

Gurecki posted one of his alleged calls with the notorious Manson Family leader to YouTube on Sunday.

“He claimed Manson phoned from Corcoran State Prison Friday night, just hours after guards shuttled him back from Mercy Hospital in Bakersfield, Calif.”

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From JUL 23 2016, 10:56 AM ET
by THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Former Charles Manson follower Leslie Van Houten is seen during a hearing before the California Board of Parole Hearings at the California Institution for Women in Chino, Calif., Thursday, April 14, 2016. Nick Ut / AP
Former Charles Manson follower Leslie Van Houten is seen during a hearing before the California Board of Parole Hearings at the California Institution for Women in Chino, Calif., Thursday, April 14, 2016. Nick Ut / AP

California Governor Denies Parole for Manson Ex-Follower Leslie Van Houten
California Gov. Jerry Brown denied parole Friday for Leslie Van Houten, the youngest follower of murderous cult leader Charles Manson who is serving a life sentence for killing a wealthy grocer and his wife more than 40 years ago read more
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From October 19, 2012
12 unsolved murders have possible ties to Manson family, LAPD says

By By Samantha Tata and Robert Kovacik, NBC Los Angeles
LOS ANGELES – The LAPD on Thursday announced it has open investigations on a dozen unsolved homicides near known Manson Family hangouts around Los Angeles.

The revelation came amid a legal battle to obtain hours of audio tape recordings between former Charles Manson follower and convicted murderer Charles “Tex” Watson and his lawyer.

“We have an obligation to the families of these victims,” Cmdr. Andy Smith told NBC4. “Our detectives need to listen to these tapes. The tapes might help with solving these murders.”

News of the open investigation was first reported by the Los Angeles Times Thursday and confirmed to NBC4 by LAPD officials. Smith told the Times the 12 murders they are investigating “are similar to some of the Manson killings.” read more
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From October 5, 2012

Former Charles Manson associate Bruce Davis, who was convicted of murdering two men, has been recommended for parole, KTLA.com reported.

Bruce Davis, formerly a follower of Charles Manson, has been recommended for parole after 40 years in prison. During that time, he received a masters degree in philosophy and religion, which factored into the parole recommendation.
Bruce Davis, formerly a follower of Charles Manson, has been recommended for parole after 40 years in prison. During that time, he received a master's degree in philosophy and religion, which factored into the parole recommendation.

By NBC News

Former Charles Manson associate Bruce Davis, who was convicted of murdering two men, has been recommended for parole, KTLA.com reported.

The California Parole Board recommended parole for Bruce Davis, 69, at his 27th parole hearing, finding that during his 40 years in prison he had a record of good behavior and had earned a master’s degree in philosophy and religion through a correspondence course.

Davis was convicted alongside Manson for the 1969 killings of Gary Hinman, a musician, and Donald Shea, a stuntman who lived with the Manson crew who was nicknamed “Shorty.” Davis is serving two life sentences. His crimes were unrelated to the murders of pregnant actress Sharon Tate and six others. read more…
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FROM April 6, 2012 | 1:24 pm
From the LA Times Blog: “Charles Manson may not attend parole hearing, but lawyer will”

Gray haired Charles Manson 2012
Gray haired Charles Manson 2012

Next week convicted killer Charles Manson is set for his 12th chance before the parole board, but so far the notorious inmate informed Corcoran State Prison officials that he is not planning to attend.

Corcoran State Prison spokeswoman Theresa Cisneros said so far Manson has said that he will not be showing up for his parole hearing but as is allowed he could have a last-minute change of heart. An attorney for Manson, however, is expected to attend, Cisneros said.

It could be his final chance at freedom as the state board under Marsy’s Law can now deny parole for up to 15 years. Manson is now 77.

Manson refused to participate in his last parole hearing, in 2007, describing himself as a “prisoner of the political system.” He also declined to participate in any psychological evaluations that were part of that process.

He and other members of his so-called family were convicted of killing actress Sharon Tate and six other people during a bloody rampage in the Los Angeles area during two August nights in 1969. He is housed in a special unit for inmates felt to be endangered by other inmates separated from the general prison population.

Twice in the last few years, guards at Corcoran State Prison said they found phones in the notorious killer’s possession. Manson called people in California, New Jersey and Florida with an LG flip phone found under his prison bunk in March 2009, The Times reported in 2011. A second cellphone was found a year later. Thirty days were added to his sentence for the first offense, officials said.

Earlier, a homemade weapon was found in his possession.
Despite the prospect that Manson will be absent, the Los Angeles County District Attorney’s office said it would vigorously oppose Manson’s release. “We consistently [opposed parole] and will continue to do so,” spokeswoman Sandi Gibbons said.

A new photo released by the California prison system shows Manson with long, gray hair and a beard. It was released at the request of CNN. read more…
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UPDATE YAHOO NEWS Fri Jan 21, 7:03 pm ET By Vanessa Evans:
Manson Family Member Patricia Krenwinkel Denied Parole

“Although they made note of the progress she’s made in her life throughout the four decades that’s she been incarcerated in a California prison, on Thursday a parole board panel denied former Manson follower Patricia Krenwinkel’s request to be released. The two-person board was conducted by parole commissioner Susan Melanson and deputy commissioner Steven Hernandez, who received letters from around the globe requesting the Krenwinkel’s parole be denied.”

“In part it may have been those letters that convinced Melanson and Hernandez to deny her request. Melanson, speaking for the board, stated that she didn’t feel that Krenwinkel understood that her actions and those of the Manson followers in general had shaken people all over the world, and that they continue to have resonance even 40 years later. Krenwinkel tried to blame her actions on her love for Manson and search for his approval, but Melanson and Hernandez appeared unmoved by her attempts at justification.
Krenwinkel has been in prison longer than any other female prisoner in California, and like the other Manson followers, and indeed Manson himself, seems unlikely to ever be released on parole” read more…
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UPDATE CNN September 3, 2009 “Former ‘Manson family’ member denied parole” Former “Manson Family” member Susan Atkins, who stabbed actress Sharon Tate to death more than 40 years ago and now is terminally ill, was denied parole Wednesday, prison officials said. [read more at the bottom of this post.]
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(This post was originally published April 9, 2009)

Charles Manson 2009
Charles Manson 2009
credits: turner.com/thesmoking gun.com

Charlie Manson ’09 “Charles Manson was photographed by the California Department of Corrections in March 2009 at the age of 74. The convicted murderer, serving a life sentence at Corcoran State Prison, will be eligible for parole (for the twelfth time) in 2012.” [thesmokinggun.com]

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“Michael Brunner. Son b. April 1, 1968 by Mary Brunner. His mother was the first member of the Family” [see below.]

Michael Manson Brunner………Michael Manson, son of Mary Brunner [booksonmars.blogspot.com]

More from laist.com:
“Manson was released from Terminal Island on March 21, 1967, and the raid on Death Valley took place October 12, 1969. I am going to assume that on average, any children would be born at the earliest 7 months into pregnancy and at most, at 9 months and 2 weeks after conception. Conception can sometimes occur up to a week after sexual relations due to a number of factors. Therefore, any Spahn-era biological children of Charles Manson would have to have been born between October 21, 1967 and August 7, 1970. This would make them between 37 and 39 years old today.” read more…

The following is a YouTube video (Part one of LA-TV2’s interview with Michael Brunner,) from around 1995. The video includes clips of Michael Brunner – Manson’s son with Mary Brunner.
[Quotation is from laist.com]

“Here is an indepth investigation, featuring Mary Brunner’s baby, whose April 15, 1968 birth was so vividly described in the first video. Valentine Michael, nicknamed “Sunstone Hawk” and “Pooh Bear” has dropped out of sight since this video was filmed around 1993.”

Part One of the Channel 2 report:

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9 members of the Manson Family Credit: listverse.com9

9 members of the Manson Family...
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9 members of the Manson Family...
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More from laist.com:
“Other Children of The Family, Paternity Uncertain:”
“Zezozose Zadfrack Glutz. Son b.October 7, 1968 to Susan Atkins. It is stated as fact that Manson was not the father, although it is unclear how anyone can be certain (Unless he didn’t have sex with her). She has said that the father was a short-term Family member by the name of Bruce Hall. She has had no contact with her son since her incarceration in 1969. Her son was adopted (Wikipedia) by a California couple and renamed Paul.”

“Phoenix Son b. January 5, 1971, to Catherine Share (Gypsy) about 6 months too late to be Manson’s. Although she will not officially confirm paternity, she has stated that fellow Family member Steven Grogan was the father (charliesfamily.tripod.com)”

“Ivan. Son b. September 16, 1969 to Sandra Good. Boyfriend Joel Pugh and Charles Manson have both been named as the father. Both seem doubtful candidates. Little is known about Good’s son Ivan, however, it has been reported that he went to College on a football scholarship. (www.cielodrive.com) I don’t know why they would be doubtful candidates. The dates line up (unless the child is biracial). One theory is that since she had the child in a hospital, which was against the Family way, it was doubtful it would have been Manson’s.”

“Angel. Son b. March 1970 to Linda Kasabian, father unknown. Reportedly given up for adoption (Although she kept her other children from her husband). In late June of 1969, she attempted a reconciliation with her husband. On July 4, she had sex with Tex. On July 5, she had sex with Manson. On August 10th, she told Manson she was pregnant. So it could have been any of the three. On August 13, she returned to her husband. On December 12, she was arrested in Concorde. She had brought one child, Tanya, into the family. She later regained custody of Tanya from the foster system.”

From LifeOnTheRow.Proboards.com:
Depending on the source, Charles “Tex” Watson” is reportedly the father of 3 – 4, or more children.
“Where Watson is Today: Since 1993 he has been at the Mule Creek State Prison, and is the father to four children. He remains married and continues to fight for his parole. To date, he has been denied parole 13 times” read more…

Just a guess, but I’m thinking that there must be more 2nd and 3rd? generation extended family members “out there,” maybe someone reading this post…Imagine what it’s like, trying to live a life under the dark, black cloud which certainly must accompany that level of infamy. The “Manson Family’s” offspring surely are victims as well as those whose lives were destroyed by the original craziness: the murder victims and their extended families. Come to think of it, we’re all victims.

More about children of the Manson Family from laist.com
MansonFamilyToday.info…
Linda Drouin Kasabian’s (Tanya – Linda Kasabian’s daughter) MySpace page…

*If, for some reason, the reader is not familiar with “case-details,” the following links provide definitive information on eight of the slayings (CAUTION – very graphic, explicit police reports!) and limited information on the ninth:
Read the first homicide investigation report of August 9th, 1969 – 5 victims at 10500 Cielo Dr. in Los Angeles: ABIGAIL ANNE FOLGER, WOJCIECH FRYKOWSKI, STEVEN EARL PARENT, JAY SEBRING and SHARON MARIE TATE-POLANSKI.
Read the first homicide investigation report of August 10th, 1969 – 2 victims at 3301 Waverly Dr. in Los Angeles: ROSEMARY and LENO LABIANCA
Read the homicide investigation report of October 13th, 1969 -1 victim at 964 Old Topanga Canyon Road in Los Angeles: GARY HINNMAN
THE MURDER OF DONALD “SHORTY” SHEA (TateFamilyLegacy.com) – 1 victim, unknown location (probably on the Spahn Ranch.)

**”Manson himself has boasted of being responsible for more than 35 murders. Other members of the Manson Family agree that they killed between “35 to 40 people.” Source: Internet Accuracy Project…

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POST UPDATES – September 1-3, 2009

Squeaky Fromme with gun holster
Squeaky Fromme with gun holster

FORT WORTH, Texas, Aug. 14, 2009 -AP
Manson Disciple “Squeaky” Fromme Set Free
“Lynette Fromme Released More Than 30 Years After 1975 Assassination Attempt on Gerald Ford”

“The Charles Manson follower convicted of trying to assassinate President Gerald Ford was released Friday from a Texas prison hospital after more than three decades behind bars.”

“Lynette “Squeaky” Fromme, 60, left the Federal Medical Center Carswell in Fort Worth at about 8 a.m. EDT Friday, spokeswoman Dr. Maria Douglas said. Though a few photographers had camped out since the night before outside the facility surrounded razor wire-topped fences, Fromme slipped by the group unnoticed in one of the many cars streaming in and out of the front gate Friday morning.”

“It was a far cry from her antics that captivated the United States’ attention 30 years ago: shaving her red hair and carving an “X” into her forehead after Manson was convicted for orchestrating a mass murder, wearing a red robe when she pulled a gun on Ford, being carried into her trial courtroom by marshals when she refused to walk.”

“In September 1975, Fromme pushed through a crowd, drew a semiautomatic .45-calibre pistol from a thigh holster and pointed it at Ford, who was shaking hands with well-wishers while walking to the California state capitol in Sacramento. But Secret Service agents grabbed her and the gun, and Ford was unhurt.”

“In September 1975, Fromme pushed through a crowd, drew a semiautomatic .45-calibre pistol from a thigh holster and pointed it at Ford, who was shaking hands with well-wishers while walking to the California state capitol in Sacramento. But Secret Service agents grabbed her and the gun, and Ford was unhurt.”

“Fromme, who reportedly got her nickname while in Manson’s “family,” possibly because of her voice, had become its leader. She was never implicated in the 1969 murders of actress Sharon Tate and eight others, for which Manson is serving a life term in Corcoran State Prison in California.”

“During her trial, Fromme either refused to attend or had outbursts. Her attorney argued that she wanted to call attention to environmental issues and Manson’s case and never meant to kill Ford. A few bullets were in the gun but not in the chamber.” read the rest of the story from CBS News/AP

Susan Atkins - file photo
Susan Atkins
File photo

“Former ‘Manson family’ member denied parole”

UPDATE CNN September 3, 2009 “Former “Manson Family” member Susan Atkins, who stabbed actress Sharon Tate to death more than 40 years ago and now is terminally ill, was denied parole Wednesday, prison officials said.”

“The parole hearing was the 13th for Atkins, 61, who is battling terminal brain cancer. Held at the Central California Women’s Facility in Chowchilla, California, the hearing stretched to more than nine hours.”

“The panel set another hearing for Atkins in three years, said Michele Kane, spokeswoman for the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation.”

“Atkins was 21 when she and other followers of Charles Manson participated in a two-night rampage that left seven people dead and terrorized the city of Los Angeles in August 1969. She and the others — Manson, Leslie Van Houten, Patricia Krenwinkel and Charles “Tex” Watson — were initially sentenced to death in the slayings of five people, including Tate, and two additional deaths the following night.” read the rest of the story from CNN